Careers - Intuitive Thinkers INTP INTJ ENTJ

[GOD]

A couple of decent posts on this subject so I thought I'd include them here....

Ok, start with this link/post 10 Best Careers for INTJs and INTPs The Dead Dog Cafe 2.4

Personally, I think only the top 4 professions are what I'd classify as real intuitive thinker types.

1) Management consultant. This in a commercial context is probably close to the nirvana of commercial INTJs. Simply because it is so dynamic. Often a free for all bringing structure to unstructured problem situations, designing solutions at speed set against SME (Subject matter experts) within the company you are dealing with (That will often rip your recommendations apart unless they are brilliant). You have to be very intuitive because you need to be able to think laterally - E.g. Quickly identify linkages and implications of what you observe and notice. I believe it certainly pays to come from a hard core accountancy background or IT systems (BA - Business Analyst). (Although an entrepreneurial / streetwise mindset coupled with an accountancy qualification is the killer combination). However, just being good at numbers or systems won't make you the right person, it's a mindset as well. It's so competitive that you must have the innate mindset, Honours students at University get their grades because they study so much, that won't help them that much in consultancy.

The true management consultant is likely to have aced the project elements within their coursework (E.g. A report on valuing companies etc) or those Harvard case studies even though they may have only scraped a pass in accountancy or IT elements (More sensing type activities). Nb: Management consultants call upon subject matter experts to prep the info for their ideas. NNb: High end independent management consultants earn far more than the banded rates shown, about £1000 ($USD 1500) is around the level. You need 20 years post grad normally to hit that abt aged 50, although I've seen mid 30s achieve that.

1a) Lawyer. Interestingly, I'm not so sure about why this is selected as an INTJ type role. There are definitely elements within law that are in alignment with INTJ attributes (Barrister type roles) but the vast majority of Law is sensing type work. There isn't much difference between working in an accountancy practice and working in a law practice. Filling in forms and processing information, effectively turning the handle rather than creating a better or more efficient handle (process). Clients want you to process information as quickly and expediently as possible - because you charge by the 5 minute segment.

Highly Intuitive types have to be careful they don't pursue a vocation that is based on status rather than utilising their innate abilities... otherwise they will spend a long time at work being very unhappy and performing below more efficient sensing types (Who will gladly day in and day out crank that handle faster than you - worse aspect though is that all low level entry jobs for grads are basically sensing focused).

I am sure though that a lot of NFs could do (and do) very well in law. What better place to right the wrongs. Also, law tends to focus very much on high grammatical capabilities (Writing effectively) so this also tends to be an area where women excel more. Guys tend to catch up, but when you're 18 you can still see the difference (Maybe with so much internet use this is changing rapidly).

2) Doctor - This is for the more scientific orientated intuitive thinkers. I know someone that did medicine simply because science was paid so badly - his elder brother lived hand to mouth and only had a job while the hospital had the appropriate funding for his work. I tend to believe that most doctors would rather be scientists, and many undertake some research work to achieve that balance between earning a decent income and doing what they are truly best at. I think a lot of NT doctors have to develop an NF facade until they become consultants and can then revert to being haughty and self centred.

If you want to make it in med then what I've seen from fellow students is that if you have a background (study) in Latin then you can better remember all the terms (In addition to all the other attributes you need).

3) Engineers / Systems analysts - Getting away from what I know about. But Engineering can be very lateral (Lots of different situations they have to contend with) but also coupled with a high end technical ability (Maths). From what I know and have seen Engineers have to be both Blue collar and White collar orientated, I'd tend to think of them as natural leader types in the military (pragmatism, discipline of thought and also bright). Systems analysts (BA's) appear to be more sensor types, although I tend to believe that the more lateral intuitive types progress to becoming Project/Programme managers which isn't too dissimilar to Management consultancy (In fact they often work closely together) and also a route into that vocation.

4) Professor - This occupation in a nutshell pretty much defines the type tendency of the intuitive thinkers. They are the scientists, discovering and thinking about the great "What ifs". All 3 previous roles above revolve around the technical competence (Sensing) and lateral / Intuitive ability. (And that's why they pay well, because it's a rare combination to excel in).

Believe though more INTP are likely to seek the professor type role, because they don't have to work in a Judging type area to get to the designation / respect of the role. I see perceivers having major problems often in the workforce where the Judging aspect is important; late to work, relaxed about lunch breaks and so forth... and when they are confronted they can't handle it; they can't discipline themselves and conform. With Judging types they can tolerate Sensing type activities, but being an intuitive and a perceiver seems a step too far away.

[entj]

ENTJs excell at business, entrepreneurship, law, organization building, science and many other careers.

This is a good list of careers for ENTJs.

[GOD]

ENTJs excell at business, entrepreneurship, law, organization building, science and many other careers.

This is a good list of careers for ENTJs.

Yes, I am sure there is a good list.

One thing "Highly intuitive" types will recognise during their career is that less intuitive types are less able at what I'd define as contingency planning which drops out of looking at multiple steps in advance. Highly intuitive types will always look at the end state and work their way backs to determine the most efficient path and those issues that might arise along that path... as well as taking the most efficient path. With endless experience (namely a function of use and therefore age) they will then use this in an auto suggestive manner which is really at a subconscious level rather than consciously using "thinking" to work through the process. This is why I always say "thinking" within Jung is just the precursor to "intuition". Almost certainly a young highly "thinking" person will evolve into an "intuitive" "thinker".

Some people liken all this type of thinking to "outside the box" which is just yet another attempt by sensing types to understand the thought processes of highly intuitive types. To them it seems outside the box thinking, but to highly intuitive types there was never a box there in the first place as everything is connected sequentially to something else. This is the difference between linear sensing thinking... thinks down the most obvious path. To Intuitives that think down all the paths.

But there is still a huge difference between Intuitives and highly intuitive types.

[Zeliar791]

The majority of the people on these MBTI forums are intuitive, but they certainly are nothing like myself. I strongly believe that the most dominant temperament in America is the ENTJ, as the overall system caters to their mentality. ENTJs prefer acquiring resources rather then managing them. It is up to the introverts to insure that everything is being put to proper utility. The highly intuitive types are the true leaders of any civilization, but there are preferences on which intuitor can lead naturally.

[GOD]

The majority of the people on these MBTI forums are intuitive, but they certainly are nothing like myself. I strongly believe that the most dominant temperament in America is the ENTJ, as the overall system caters to their mentality. ENTJs prefer acquiring resources rather then managing them. It is up to the introverts to insure that everything is being put to proper utility. The highly intuitive types are the true leaders of any civilization, but there are preferences on which intuitor can lead naturally.

You are likely to some extent on the acquistion of resources although I think you are missing out all the ISTJs that are more than interested in materialism.

I am not sure that introverts insure proper utility of resources as does anyone else. The more J function types are interested in efficiency coupled with a whole range of people that value fairness and justice.. somerthing not measured in standard personality profiles.