Looks and type

[GOD]

Well, I think most people are a reflection of societies relection on themselves.

So, would anybody agree that people who have various physical attributes take on various typings where they fit stereotypical norms?

Consider

- the attractive blonde girl
- the guy who's no good at sports

Are these types more likely to drift into various stereotype psych trait profiles.... I definitely think so.

[INFJuniper]

depends if they think for themselves or not.

For example, (its late I'm hoping I read this right).... But say you have someone that works in a certain environment. Everyone is eating a certain way, fast food, does the person choose for themself or do they follow the same eating pattern. They desire something healthy, yet its much easier to not think about it and stick out.

Next example, a kid is raised with parents that like the red sox and country music ( I know strange combination). Their friends are all into theatre and band in highschool. The person hates everything the parents are into, doesn't have much interest in the whole theatre thing yet gets along with these people. Later in college the kid goes to a liberal artsy dorm, finds more a niche, yet the far left trendy types they have an aversion. Life goes on and they remain open and find that the surface doesn't always reveal what is beneath in the person. The person still doesn't like country music, but is ok with a person who likes it and is genuine and open enough to corrispond with them equally.
The second person mentioned, in the first example would choose to eat carrots and apples with their lunch, despite all the co-workers not and maybe even making fun of them about it.

In answer to the question, the first example most likely would have a type, the second one I'm not so sure. What do you think?

[GOD]

depends if they think for themselves or not.

For example, (its late I'm hoping I read this right).... But say you have someone that works in a certain environment. Everyone is eating a certain way, fast food, does the person choose for themself or do they follow the same eating pattern. They desire something healthy, yet its much easier to not think about it and stick out.

Next example, a kid is raised with parents that like the red sox and country music ( I know strange combination). Their friends are all into theatre and band in highschool. The person hates everything the parents are into, doesn't have much interest in the whole theatre thing yet gets along with these people. Later in college the kid goes to a liberal artsy dorm, finds more a niche, yet the far left trendy types they have an aversion. Life goes on and they remain open and find that the surface doesn't always reveal what is beneath in the person. The person still doesn't like country music, but is ok with a person who likes it and is genuine and open enough to corrispond with them equally.
The second person mentioned, in the first example would choose to eat carrots and apples with their lunch, despite all the co-workers not and maybe even making fun of them about it.

In answer to the question, the first example most likely would have a type, the second one I'm not so sure. What do you think?

I actually think there are a few factors that develop personality.

1) I think there is genetic/hereditary
2) There is randomness/wildcard
3) Surrounding influences
4) Self determination

1) You have common traits that one or both your parents have. These are not learned traits they are innate. Things like temperament and so forth
2) This is just what happens when you are the product of your grandparents and parents etc, basically there's dispersion around the mean, that’s why siblings etc can have different personalities. If you don't believe in randomness then all offspring would be identical. (Incidently there should be less dispersion if your parents and grandparents share similar personalities).
3) Depends on whom you have surrounding you. Basically what inputs you have.
4) Basically this is about thinking for yourself and being motivated or strong enough to move
away or toward point 3).

Essentially points 1 & 2 are nature and 3 & 4 are nurture.

[INFJuniper]

I actually think there are a few factors that develop personality.

1) I think there is genetic/hereditary
2) There is randomness/wildcard
3) Surrounding influences
4) Self determination

1) You have common traits that one or both your parents have. These are not learned traits they are innate. Things like temperament and so forth
2) This is just what happens when you are the product of your grandparents and parents etc, basically there's dispersion around the mean, that’s why siblings etc can have different personalities. If you don't believe in randomness then all offspring would be identical. (Incidently there should be less dispersion if your parents and grandparents share similar personalities).
3) Depends on whom you have surrounding you. Basically what inputs you have.
4) Basically this is about thinking for yourself and being motivated or strong enough to move
away or toward point 3).

Essentially points 1 & 2 are nature and 3 & 4 are nurture.

God, I see what your saying. I started to write on a punkish/emo kid I know of that has veered from his upbringing, but came to realize that even without his biological father around, he's taking the same route, but has chosen to be responsible for the kid he has. He was raised in a very strict home, but his genes show a lot of his father. The girlfriends he chooses all have to wear certain clothes, be 18, listen to certain music and have certain friends.
I think this guy is mostly a product of surrounding influences - the emo/punkish culture.

Many of the friends I have are travelers and live far from me. I've noticed that when we lived near one another we picked up on various traits. When you mix a lot of countries, personalities and customs, it can make you a very different person from your family if they aren't travelers. I know 20years ago, you would have never seen me becoming what I am today. Especially since I really didn't start reading until my 30's.

I think most of my personality was developed through #4 ,self determination. I noticed independent thinking of my parents at age 5. But I can't come to any conclusion of a type that I've dated. Most all are of different backgrounds and preferences. I started the online dating thing 7 months ago and it's been interesting to see the responses. As I date and have been open to dating even guys I'm not interested in, my eyes have been opening up to guys I wouldn't have given a second thought.

So yes, you've made a good point, but I wonder where someone who is genius would fit? or MENSA society? Would they be the same? or even travelers, I wonder if they are less influenced by their family and more so by the people they come across and interact? What about those that live in isolation for some years or P.O.W.'s, do they change? or how about eccentric people like bjork?

[GOD]

I started to write on a punkish/emo kid I know of that has veered from his upbringing, but came to realize that even without his biological father around, he's taking the same route, but has chosen to be responsible for the kid he has. He was raised in a very strict home, but his genes show a lot of his father. The girlfriends he chooses all have to wear certain clothes, be 18, listen to certain music and have certain friends.
I think this guy is mostly a product of surrounding influences - the emo/punkish culture.

Well, if you observe people then you'll notice that there are those that lead and those that follow. Some want to be included very strongly in a group and those that are confident to be by themselves and/or have their own opinion.

Whether its nature or nurture, they all have various levels of influences at various stages of your life and the conditions under which you are subjected to. Introverts would appear to be less susceptible to group behaviour as they don't depend on the group.

I know 20years ago, you would have never seen me becoming what I am today. Especially since I really didn't start reading until my 30's.

Now you can sort of get the same out of watching youtube and reading the net. I think the net will improve peoples knowledge substantially.

So yes, you've made a good point, but I wonder where someone who is genius would fit? or MENSA society? Would they be the same? or even travelers, I wonder if they are less influenced by their family and more so by the people they come across and interact? What about those that live in isolation for some years or P.O.W.'s, do they change? or how about eccentric people like bjork?

I tend to think that the more unique or completely at the end of the scale then the more likely they are to be self determined. Group thought is easy, the group thinks for you, hence its not great for being unique.