Looks and type

[Louie]

Libraries, I am a library junkie, bless the internet for now I have access online to University databases and libraries, one of the best in Victoria, if not Australia.

Physically in a library, just get lost in the science or philosophy or psychology or..... sections.....it's heaven. I let stuff find me.

Randomly go through books or references or research work.... it's almost as good as ***.

Almost.

[GOD]

Libraries, I am a library junkie, bless the internet for now I have access online to University databases and libraries, one of the best in Victoria, if not Australia.

Physically in a library, just get lost in the science or philosophy or psychology or..... sections.....it's heaven. I let stuff find me.

Randomly go through books or references or research work.... it's almost as good as ***.

Almost.

You probably should listen to lecture 12 of this link UC Berkeley Webcasts | Video and Podcasts: Psychology 156 quite a bit of neuropsych

You can't say *** on this site as its a banned word, Not **** though..

I'm very much into directional thinking, its good to laterally spread out into lots of topics but getting to the edge and seeing whats not been seen before requires to get really in depth. It requires quite a bit of self control... in a J rather than P sort of way.

[INFJuniper]

Yes, I bet there's going to be some really knowledgeable kids around now that live on the net and learn 24/7. ...
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Yes God I think so, but the problem is what are they learning? Some things come from unreliable resources and I'm so glad I learned early on in Journalism about cross referencing sources. I'm trying to help a co-worker out some of the conspiracy theories he's fallen for. He's 25years old. He's eating up knowledge at a faster pace recently and bouncing his ideas off me and another guy, which I think is good. Interestingly I think his desire to grow intellectually may have started with an attraction to a gal. I've noticed every since he met her, he's talked about older women a lot. She's 10 years older.
I also think that this is part of developing his identity, since he had such a weak one growing up. His father told him he didn't have much of one at 16yrs old. Girlfriends have also said that he sort of morphs into them and that's where the conflict happens, so he's said he wants to work on some of that before his next relationship. Part of his problem, I believe, is too much attatchement to his parents (mainly his mother) and until he financially and emotionally breaks away, he's hindering his development and problems he's has with girls.

On the topic of types, I've found in myself that each guy I've gone on a date with I've picked up new interest, even though I didn't want to continue anything with them. For example some seminary grads have peeked my interest in studying reformed theology. I've also opened up to two categories I was closed to before, the military and future pastors. I said I could never marry either and yet I seem to be dating them more.

I remember realising at High School that being popular really was a function of having flexible values. I can't think of anything worse than being popular, imagine spending 95% of your time talking about crap . On this score Jung was wrong on the extroversion scale, Introverts are not drained by interaction, they are drained by the wrong type of interaction.

Interestingly or maybe not, I was very interested in being popular, even though I'm an introvert and made it a goal, but my value system never seemed to allow it. I navigated towards like minded individuals while pursuing superficial looks. Spending 2 hours every night preparing for the next day and an hour or more preparing in the morning, if you remember the big hair 80's? I see it as a waste, but should be thankful I guess that I can use some of it now. One of my old best friends contacted me this year and she said that was one of the things she admired, which I find odd. God, it sounds like you were pretty mature in high school, I don't think you would have liked me so much. Fashion & being popular was an obssesion till I went into the Army.

I find talking and spending time with "ordinary" people draining. With very smart people or fun people energising. But in saying so, extroversion is like a barrier to understanding as you do so little thinking when your around others or going out. Hence I like introversion.

God, I'd tend to agree, but I've found such refreshment in coversations that I've had with locals (as long as they don't seem predjudice in their thinking). New Orleans, stopping to talk with the maid at my bed and breakfast or a sort of druggie on the corner of some place by the french quarter who stopped me from a run gave me a better experience than the average tourist. I probably couldn't speak everyday with some people, but I still find that everyone has a story and when you get down to it, it can be interesting. Maybe it depends on the personality though and if your a thinker, yeah maybe one wouldn't have the patience to weed through all the unnecessary information.

I get what you are saying, but from ordinary people I hear most amazing things, it probably gets my neurons firing even more than from "smart" folk...they are kinda free and easy, un.....?
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Louie a lot of your interest in ordinary people probably has to do with your personality type. I tend to like variety and am easily boored if there's not a mix of academia types and the average joe.

[GOD]

Interestingly or maybe not, I was very interested in being popular, even though I'm an introvert and made it a goal, but my value system never seemed to allow it. I navigated towards like minded individuals while pursuing superficial looks. Spending 2 hours every night preparing for the next day and an hour or more preparing in the morning, if you remember the big hair 80's? I see it as a waste, but should be thankful I guess that I can use some of it now. One of my old best friends contacted me this year and she said that was one of the things she admired, which I find odd. God, it sounds like you were pretty mature in high school, I don't think you would have liked me so much. Fashion & being popular was an obssesion till I went into the Army.

I think this is where society lets the youth down the most. Quite simply they are trying to find identity and that identity is being molded by the majority of kids (Non NT/NF) types and the commercial world. It creates a lot of psychological distress and self loathing.

God, I'd tend to agree, but I've found such refreshment in coversations that I've had with locals (as long as they don't seem predjudice in their thinking). New Orleans, stopping to talk with the maid at my bed and breakfast or a sort of druggie on the corner of some place by the french quarter who stopped me from a run gave me a better experience than the average tourist. I probably couldn't speak everyday with some people, but I still find that everyone has a story and when you get down to it, it can be interesting. Maybe it depends on the personality though and if your a thinker, yeah maybe one wouldn't have the patience to weed through all the unnecessary information.

I actually worked all my teen years 13-18 in a service station pumping gas (saving money to go to university). So I have met thousands upon thousands of people and had short 10 minute conversations with them. Normal people don't say prophetic things, sometimes they tell you something that you have over sighted in just "living" and "enjoying life". Remember, most people are focused on the most mundane which is just getting by and walking through life, if makes them happy then I am pleased for them.

Louie a lot of your interest in ordinary people probably has to do with your personality type. I tend to like variety and am easily boored if there's not a mix of academia types and the average joe.

Possibly, although if you've spent a lot of time out of the loop thinking about all sorts of other things then ordinary people can tell you the stuff thats right in front of your nose. Would agree also that various types need much more social interaction.

[Louie]

I think for me it breaks down into people, information/ideas about anything, what makes people tick, (on the individual level), stuff!

I have, and am fortunate to meet a lot of (different types) of people and go on and have opportunity to scrape more than surface....

I seem to have this world of inner sanctum, immediate family, close friends, then outer even more peripheral groups, people that I interact and exchange different ideas, interests....there is the business one, the self development one, the fun one, (artisans, bless them!), the more intellectual...the theological, hobby groups, network of people associations catalysted? wd? from within the family, from all works of life, obviously I enjoy poking around here, this is fun/learning for me, yet, I have an ENFP friend, who is especially always handballing stuff onto me, I don't share it here because it is too out there for here.. I do find it necessary to wear many hats.

That isn't a problem, but I would be most in my own hat when with ENFP.....meaning most natural hat..if that makes sense, but have the most fun with my artisan friends, yet rationals are terrific too...

I just find opportunity from everywhere...children are great teachers. The most wonderful minds, ideas and imaginations..ours are not INFP's....more E'sSTP's....can't get them to sit still long enough to test properly.

As a child, a teenager I kind of walked to my own drum, I wasn't in the "in" group, but chose probably, (now looking back assessing the personalities), rational company because it was all about learning, fine minds...)

I just don't recall many other INFP's, ENFP types...the world seemed to be artisan, guardian and rationals...it is wonderful to come across other idealist types and just fly....

[GOD]

I think for me it breaks down into people, information/ideas about anything, what makes people tick, (on the individual level), stuff!

I have, and am fortunate to meet a lot of (different types) of people and go on and have opportunity to scrape more than surface....

I seem to have this world of inner sanctum, immediate family, close friends, then outer even more peripheral groups, people that I interact and exchange different ideas, interests....there is the business one, the self development one, the fun one, (artisans, bless them!), the more intellectual...the theological, hobby groups, network of people associations catalysted? wd? from within the family, from all works of life, obviously I enjoy poking around here, this is fun/learning for me, yet, I have an ENFP friend, who is especially always handballing stuff onto me, I don't share it here because it is too out there for here.. I do find it necessary to wear many hats.

That isn't a problem, but I would be most in my own hat when with ENFP.....meaning most natural hat..if that makes sense, but have the most fun with my artisan friends, yet rationals are terrific too...

I just find opportunity from everywhere...children are great teachers. The most wonderful minds, ideas and imaginations..ours are not INFP's....more E'sSTP's....can't get them to sit still long enough to test properly.

As a child, a teenager I kind of walked to my own drum, I wasn't in the "in" group, but chose probably, (now looking back assessing the personalities), rational company because it was all about learning, fine minds...)

I just don't recall many other INFP's, ENFP types...the world seemed to be artisan, guardian and rationals...it is wonderful to come across other idealist types and just fly....

That’s the difference; life for me isn't a self service buffet. Unless people are of constructive use to my motivations then they serve no purpose. (Ok, that might have sounded a bit harsh, maybe more like there is no reciprocal and useful exchange of ideas with the vast majority of people, nothing wrong with that, just shows we're on different tangents).

Admittedly, I do know a few "live for the moment" people, who are great as they provide the entertainment and organise all that sort of stuff.

Yes, I used to always align myself with the brightest so I could sponge off their minds and bounce my ideas. Biggest problem now though is that they really don't exist, it seems that they all stopped developing when they finished university. Sure some are technically astute, but innovative no. I have yet to meet what I'd call a serious permutational thinker.

Hmmm..I think Rationals are at the heart of it are purpose driven. Without a goal there is no logic.

[GOD]

Libraries, I am a library junkie, bless the internet for now I have access online to University databases and libraries, one of the best in Victoria, if not Australia.

Be sure to relay anything useful on Neuro psych.

Only problem is that so much University research is rubbish. There seems to be a normal attempt to make the article completely unreadable and provide flimsy mathematical proof. Logic precedes mathematical proof but I see so little of it. Accurately wrong.

.... I think I need to go to the gym. grrrr...